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(name)Eric T
(emailaddy)Thiv@excite.com
(location)Canada

Given that the universe is made up of a finite number of atoms and that new matter cannot be created,how can someone travel in time and "create" new matter just by physically being in another time with atoms from the present?
Even with the vastness and emptiness of the universe, it is likely that the "new" atoms interfere with "existing" atoms of that time, and we all know two things cannot occupy the same space.
Further more, a travel in time also involves travel in space.
Even as you read this in the few moments it takes, the earth and and it's star have moved. So imagined travelling back or forward years or centuries. How will the time traveller pinpoint his/her destination not only in time but also in space.
If travelling to the past he/she would have to plot the course using past positions of the stars and planets down to the nanometer, other wise he/she might "appear" in a solid object.
Even travelling in time a nanosecond would involve recalculating the position of all electrons in their orbits so as not have two electrons occupy the same space, especially considering that one would travel in time to earth or some other habitable place where there is air to breathe upon arrival (BACK TO THE FUTURE).
Even the FORCE FIELD of the ENTERPRISE creates new matter, new energy and new space in a different time.
No can do!
Comments?

Hi Eric.
EXCELLENT POINTS! It shows you certainly have thought with intellect about this!
Everything that you have pondered or questioned here (concerning the duplication/displacement or introduction of atoms) has been covered somewhere within the 20 pages of discussion. You probably didn't read them and I certainly don't expect that very many people would read them all. There's a lot of text there!

I will look up these discussions and link them here:


ATOM DUPLICATION REFERENCE #1 (RESPONSES PAGE 3)

ATOM DUPLICATION REFERENCE #2 (RESPONSES PAGE 4)

(there may be more- no time to look right now)


As far as the geographical trajectories one would have to account for and compensate for, I am well aware of that and stated such on my essay page. A copy of that exact wording:
Let's make an assumption here for all intents and purposes, that YOU can travel both temporally and geographically by simultaneous methods (just to diffuse the argument about our planet being part of an expanding universe and that even in a short temporal excursion, it would be a great distance from the space it now occupies). The device (method) YOU use automatically coordinates the proper trajectories for your "trip".
This is a problem which would need to be rectified by a circumvention of the Hiesenberg Uncertainty Principle which, I believe, is close to being disproved or at least modified POSITIVELY.
At any rate, it's still all speculation.
I certainly appreciate your response!
Chuck



(name)Shawn French
(emailaddy)shawn_french@hotmail.com
(location)Thunder Bay

I would like to hear your views on how time can be possible.

Hello, Shawn. I don't think I understand the question. Do you mean as a dimension in which we experience the duration of an event?
Could you elaborate more?
Chuck



(name)Rob
(emailaddy)Kangaroo170767@yahoo.com
(location)Melbourne, Victoria, AUSTRALIA

Hi Chuck
thanks for your past reply, its good to see different views.
Here's another one for you.
Q/ When did the Human race become AWARE of time, When did we start calling a minute a minute ? Ive tried to find the answer to that and it seem to be lost in time itself, I hope you are able to help.
Many thanks
Rob

Hi again, Rob.
Okay, I had to look this one up. John Gribbin comes through again and I quote him (in partial blocks):

"The study of time was both the first science and the first organized religion of mankind. Our present-day society has developed, with some setbacks but never a complete break, from the society of Neolithic farmers that grew up in the millennia following the retreat of the last great Ice Age."
He goes on to talk about observations (around 7000 B.C.) of the annual cycle of the seasons- and interjecting that even further back to the emergence of sentience- the awareness of the day and night cycle.
With less to distract them, these "ancients" must have had a good "feel" for the rhythms of cosmic time with the stars and observably cyclic moon above their heads in the night sky.
My own thoughts are of the belief that it must have been a series of deductions as "we" began to question- realizing the day/night cycles were equally long would allow one to eventually break it down into periods we now have; hours/minutes/seconds.
As far as who came up with the names of the periods, I don't know. I do know that the actual measurement of time began in the early 700s A.D. by the chinese- a measuring instrument made with water and earth and then, more recognizable to us, in the mid to late 1300s A.D. with the invention of the mechanical clock.
I also know the word MINUTE is a variation of the word MINUTE (my noot), which typically means small.
That's about the extent of what I can find or have knowledge of.
Hope it helps some.
Chuck



(name)LJW
(emailaddy)LJW@Yahoo.com
(location)England

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Hi.
I'm so sorry about your tragedy. I'm forced to agree with John Paul Allen who posted on your site. I believe that any time a person would travel back into the past and change it, he would be creating a timeline that he was not indigenous to (or anyone from his timeline he was trying to help in your case). Meaning, it has already happened. No one has intervened.
MY DEEPEST SYMPATHIES to you and your husband.
Chuck


(name)Silverhawk (emailaddy)silverhawk@eidosnet.co.uk
(location)England

Okay, how about this theory (borrowing a little from Star Trek TNG).
The universe could be a self-perpetuating time-loop (like in the TNG episode Cause And Effect), the loop spanning the entire timeline. Just like the Enterprise's destruction near the spatial rift causes time to go back for them, the amount of energy/forces involved in the end of the universe are so powerful that it rips through the space/time continuum, the energy getting released at the dawn of time, creating the Big Bang. In essence, the end of the universe is what creates the universe to start off with. Thus the timeline begins again anew - a new loop.
Now this many explain Deja-Vu. When the person thinks they've been to a place before when they knows they hasn't or feels they've done something before, perhaps they're remembering their experiences from the previous loop. A similar thought can be referred to Precognition. When someone saves their own life by not getting on that doomed flight, perhaps they're remembering a previous loop where they *did* get on that flight and die. Thus the future in this loop can be altered.
This brings me to the thought that maybe the relative rarity of these Deja-vu and precognitive incidents are perhaps due to some temporary breakdown of space-time, allowing our minds access to previous loops. It's understanding how and why these breakdowns occur that could be the key to time-travel.
And when time-travel is invented? Well forget about parallel universe for the moment. If we're saying that the Big Bang was started by the end of the universe in a previous loop, then this allows us to bypass the Grandfather Paradox. Set your time machine to go back further than the Big Bang, into the previous loop. You can then eliminate your grandfather and the timeline will change accordingly for that loop, but you won't be affected, because you originated from one loop further on. When the end of the universe happens to create the next loop, everything will be reset anyway, so the timeline you left will still exist for you to go back to (a few billion years in the future) if by killing your grandfather in this loop, you make the future of this loop less desirable.
What do you think???

Well, I think you have an interesting take on the subject. If I read it correctly, however, there seems to be some inconsistencies in your method of paradox circumvention; the loop only allows for one timeline (which creates the paradox problem), but the supposition of another accessible loop just makes another way of suggesting a manyworlds theory, anyway.
Your ideas on Deja Vu and precognitive occurrences are definitely an interesting type of reasoning.
Thanks for your post!
Chuck



(name)Early
(emailaddy)early_n@hotmail.com
(location)Australia

I can't say much for now as Im in a hurry. But my point of view is in favor of time travel. I mean how in all the world is it not possible. It may not be now but in the future I truely believe in the reality of it.
In retrospect, when it does become a reality I hope we are all there to experience it and have a say.

Agreed. Although I don't think it's happening in this timeline presently unless covertly.
Chuck



(name)shawn_french
(emailaddy)shawn_french@hotmail.com
(location)Thunder Bay

TIME TRAVEL IS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!
I have uncovered the secrets to time travel! I guess you might concider me a 'time walker' trying to find my way back to the the reality I wich I came.
Realities play a big part when it come to time travel. I you are interested and want to hear (in full detail) what happened to me and my friend, please e-mail me at shawn_french@hotmail.com We are currently making a web site, devoted to time travel.
Everyone Is Welcomed.
Shawn French

Speechless again.
Chuck






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