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NAME: Lou
E-MAIL ADDRESS: highkick2@aol.com
LOCATION: Houston, Texas
I am a little un sure about it but I do think we can travel but also feel
we may be joined by different levels of life I.E. we are on level 1 and the next
level 2 is living in another dimension in the same plane as us on a paralell
course.I.E the other me
Hello there, Lou.
Who knows? You could very well be right. The first person to do it in this timeline will have no idea what to expect. I imagine it will take a great deal of psychological conditioning for one thing.
Thanks for your input.
Chuck
NAME: Michael West
E-MAIL ADDRESS: michael@west61.freeserve.co.uk
LOCATION: London
DATE: AUGUST 9, 2002
Time Travel is truely fascinating. Scientists say it is theoretically possible. One thing is for sure - only time itself will tell. It is said, in your article above, that, timetravel to the future might not be possible, and that "a moment in the future does not exist because it hasn't happened yet". You also indicated that the possibility of anything happening exist in an infinite number of universes.
Now, I think that's contradicting in a way because a "moment in the future" where you will pick up that rock exist in the future as an alternative to not picking it up. Similarly, although this discussion I'm writing would exist in my past by the time you read it, the possibility that I would decide to participate in it (or not) existed in the future of an alternative universe. The fact that we don't see people in silver suits from the future doesn't mean that we have not been visited. For one thing, their discovery may endanger their mission and gateways. Their advance technology would enable them to conceal any such undertaking from our relatively primitive detection system. Does this sound weird? Only because we are not ready for it, yet. Years from now, it will be like writing a simple program in Visual Basic.
Michael.
Michael,
GOOD THINKING! I know exactly what you're saying. I still don't think the future (any possible future) exists; IN THIS REALITY. I think there are a huge (possibly infinite) number of futures "hanging out there" just ahead of us, in the "LARVAE" stage, some more "solid" than others- more possible, closer to forming- sorry, I can't find the words here, but remember where I talked about the culmination of experience and memory and my question of whether all times exist simultaneously? What I'm getting at is my belief that the future other than near lightspeed travel out of the frame of reference of the observer, is just not accessible because it hasn't been created yet- THE FUTURE THAT WILL BE THE PRESENT AND THEN THE PAST! There's such a fine line between the future and the past that it's almost an indistiguishable difference. The present lasts how long before it becomes the past? A moment? How long is that?
As far as the visitors from the future- who knows? You could very well be right. Our past may be changing constantly and our entire population may be "remembering" as it changes. Tomorrow London may not have been bombed or Pearl Harbor attacked. Maybe yesterday Neil Armstrong was the third man to walk on the moon and the Beatles never met. And yes, this whole thing may be a program. I hope not. Anything is possible, most are not likely. I'd still like to think we have free will.;)
Thanks for posting, Michael. I'm really glad you did and if you haven't, I think you would enjoy reading some of the other response pages. There's lots of good discussions. I seem to be getting a large amount of responses from the U.K., which is great. BTW, you also might want to check out a U.K. friend of mine's site- Anthony Edwards on TIMETRAVEL- find him on my TIMETRAVEL LINKS page! Please post back in any time!
Chuck
NAME: Ron
E-MAIL ADDRESS: rdays777@aol.com
LOCATION: Winterhaven
DATE: AUGUST 12, 2002
Time travel may be possible,but the way you say it is perfect. IE, lets
assume this, and this happens then you do this, so on and so on. Your setting up
boundries. No one can say hey there is no time travel,or they are ignorant. time
travel may be possible,but only under a few conditions, nothing else.
Hi Ron,
I'm glad you agree with the way I see it. And I agree with you that for someone to just say, "No, this or that is not possible" is terribly closeminded.
Thanks for taking the time.
Chuck
NAME: Amit
E-MAIL ADDRESS: amitrekhi@rediffmail.com
LOCATION: ?
DATE: AUGUST 15, 2002
well i read timeline by micheal crichton and was very nuch interested in
the theories about quantum which he had mentioned .
i would like to know more..
Hmmm... haven't read it.
NAME: Michael West
E-MAIL ADDRESS: michael@west61.freeserve.co.uk
LOCATION: London
DATE: AUGUST 15, 2002
Hello Chuck,
I posted my views on timetravel on your site on the 9th of August for which you
responded - that's great. If you recall, it was about timetravel into the
future. Now, here's one possible way of futureward timetravel - according to
CHRONOS TECHNOLOGIES.
Bear in mind that within any given timeline, there is no limit to the number of
time gates that may link the timeline to others. Therefore, the existence of
multiple time gates being opened simultaneously in a single timeline can lead to
numerous permutations of interconnected timelines. For example:
A time gate is from the year 2258 in Timeline A is opened into August 1932 in
Timeline B; the time gate is kept opened for the entire month. Many years later
in the year 2237 in Timeline B, time travellers open a time gate into August
1932 of their past, creating a Timeline C. In August 1932 of Timeline C, there
now exist two time gates, one leading to the year 2237 (Timeline B) and another
leading to 2258 (Timeline A-2). The original Timeline A cannot be reached from
Timeline C, since the gate linking Timelines A and B exist only between those
two Timelines. Just as Timeline C is a Duplicate of Timeline B's past, any open
links in Timeline B's past are also duplicated, so the links between timelines A
and B are duplicated in the parallel timeline as a link between Timelines A-2
and C.
This phenomenon is one way of traveling indirectly to a parallel future. While
time travellers in 2237 of Timeline B cannot open a time gate directly into the
future, they can go to August 1932 in Timeline C, where the time gate from
Timeline A-2 is open. The time travellers from Timeline B can then pass through
that open time gate to the year 2258 of Timeline A-2, which is 26 years further
into the future than their point of origin, albeit in a different timeline twice
removed from their own, and three times removed from the original future
(Timeline A).
The implications of anyone using this 'possibility' to shortcut into the future
is unknown. But if all Time exist simultaneously (including the future) then
all events and conditions leading up to it is pre-destined. In other words, all
the choices we make to reach that future are the only ones we have - in this
dimension - in this universe.
I await your response, fellow traveller.
Michael.
Hi again, Michael. Of course I remember you and always glad to have people post back in.
I've read the CHRONOS TECHNOLOGIES site, but it's been a while- so I'm going to take a refresher on it.
I wrote those first two lines two or three days ago and still haven't looked at the scenario at the Chronos site. I did however draw it out on paper (your example) and nothing really looks unusual. All is well assuming there is such thing as a timegate. Except you STILL ARE MOVING THROUGH PARALLEL UNIVERSES- worlds/realities side by side. The futures- whichever ones; doesn't matter which timeline, are all nothing more than possible futures. Anyone who traveled from timeline B in August of 1932 to a future of 2258 in timeline A OR anyone who traveled from timeline C in August of 1932 to EITHER 2237 in timeline B OR 2258 in timeline A(2) STILL would not be able to return to their own ORIGINAL timeline. If they return it would either be to a timeline B(2) or a C(2)- both of which would not be able to access original starting point timelines. See how it's a SUBJECTIVE experience and that the future isn't "set in
stone"? I have a tough time with determinism vs. free will. I think free will is going to win out if Ron Mallett gets it done- BUT- HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL REALLY EVER KNOW!!! He can tell the world, but we'd just have to take his word for it, BECAUSE the experience will be SUBJECTIVE!!! I really appreciate your time, Michael. I also appreciate your hard thinking and reasoning. Your thinking may be right or mine may be. TIME may tell or we may never know ;)! Stop back any TIME!
Chuck
NAME: Mike Nicholas
E-MAIL ADDRESS: micaran@micaran.fsnet.co.uk
LOCATION: England
Browsing for anything to do with timetravel
Over time my friends and I have had discussions about time and in particular retrospective temporal motion. Over time I have come to the view that time does not exist except in our minds but wanted to discover whether such views have been previously proposed and what was the opposing arguments.
So, I thought I'd see what there is on the www about time travel and chose to visit your site. Although I'm still using the links from yr site I haven' t found any that support the view that time does not exist. Are there any?
One strong argument against the existence of time is that there is (as far I know) no meaningful definition. Some people have taken a pragmatic view that time is that measured by clocks and others have said that without time everything would occur simultaneously. Neither of these views constitute a definition of time nor are they evidence that time exists as a dimension that can be moved through.
I accept that "time dilation" occurs, but do not attribute it to the slowing of time although that is our perception.
If you could point me in the direction of sites that have a similar view to mine or that provide a definition of time or that can put forward convincing counter arguments I would be grateful. And if you want to exchange views then that's okay with me too.
NAME: Mikhail
double post from mirror site? DIFFERENT NAME?
E-MAIL ADDRESS: micaran@micaran.fsnet.co.uk
LOCATION: England
DATE: AUGUST 17, 2002
Over time my friends and I have had discussions about time and in
particular retrospective temporal motion. Over time I have come to the view that
time does not exist except in our minds but wanted to discover whether such
views have been previously proposed and what was the opposing arguments.
So, I thought I'd see what there is on the www about time travel and chose to
visit your site. Although I'm still using the links from yr site I haven't found
any that support the view that time does not exist. Are there any?
One strong argument against the existence of time is that there is (as far I
know) no meaningful definition. Some people have taken a pragmatic view that
time is that measured by clocks and others have said that without time
everything would occur simultaneously. Neither of these views constitute a
definition of time nor are they evidence that time exists as a dimension that
can be moved through.
I accept that "time dilation" occurs, but do not attribute it to the slowing of
time although that is our perception.
If you could point me in the direction of sites that have a similar view to mine
or that provide a definition of time or that can put forward convincing counter
arguments I would be grateful. And if you want to exchange views then that's
okay with me too.
Rgds
Mikhail
Hi Mike, Mikhail?-
I've heard this before. Time does exist in our minds, as does anything else, so the point is fairly moot in SUBJECTIVE experience. Although I do understand the questions you and your friends bring up. I have so many links that I really don't know which ones if any, address this. As far as clock measurement; Factually, clocks don't measure TIME- clocks measure MOVEMENT- as in EARTH, SOL, OTHER STARS, GALAXIES, ETC.,:OUR UNIVERSE. To loop back to your ponderings- this is how we relate to the passage of TIME. Sorry I couldn't be of much help.
Chuck
this is possible because the human mind have a great and ilimitaded concepts about the physic ; also can get this time travel; if I can meet more physic ;I reach the idea of thetimemachine.
Welcome in, Vinzen.
I'm sorry, but I assume English is not your mother tongue. Although your post does appear to be positive and I certainly thank you for taking the time to do so!
Regards,
Chuck
