(name)Ian Ragsdale
(emailaddy)delvebelow@aol.com
(location)Houston
Your page has given me a lot more to think about.
I have just read Greg Bear's "Eternity" and they do some traveling in a "sub-dimensional" (i just made up that word) passageway that connects all the universes called the "Way."
The author's greatest flaw, although it was a great book, was he was somewhat unclear about the people who created it the Way, but I think they were a group of scientists and engineers from the future, led by a man? named Korzenowski.
One thing Bear does not touch on is how or with what
these gateways are opened and accessed, except through a "clavicle." But they do make a lot of pretty streaks and bright lights and Bear gets to make use of his metaphorical prowess.
Do you have any ideas on what machines, THEORETICALLY, would send timeships into the guts of space/time?
Also, I searched through the other posted responses for something about the conversation of mass, and saw one post. In "The Man Who Folded Himself," Gerrold says that there is a "pop" every time you travel in time as you push out air or air goes in to fill the space you left. If there was only one universe,
no separate dimensions, this might have dramatic consequences if there are multiple, interconnected universes, less matter in one dimension and an equal amount of matter being added to another dimension might be able to balance out.
Could this all be avoided by setting up time travel stations in deep space where nothing fills it?
What do you think?
That still brings up the point that another responder made: can the same two atoms coexist in a dimension as the result of traveling back or forward in time?
This again breeches the argument, same dimension or different? - and if it IS a different dimension, are the atoms the same?
Now, the chaos theory suggests that no two snowflakes are the same if you get down to all the ultra-subatomic particles, are all atoms different too? If exact ones exist in the same
universe, does that upset something, or is everything okay?
Another -
We know any event in the universe can be named with a Length x Width x Height x Time coordinate.
In "Back to the Future" and other movies, time machines simply have a Time to travel to, and they are transported there. In
order to successfully navigate through the bowels of time, one would have to calculate EXACTLY how long to travel, with a longer duration for trips further back.Now how to calculate? Bored scientists, using the experiments with atomic clocks on fast-moving craft, would possibly be able to figure the "speed of
time" - how many "frames" exist in a millisecond or something or the sort. Picture the flimstrip of a cartoon - each of those is one "event," just as any event in real time. I think the speed of motion picture film in 12 frames/second. The speed of time is much faster, able to encompass events that are hyperbolically rapid without the sort of time differentiations that occur
fast airplanes. If these scientists could figure out how many frames of time in a millisecond or in a larger or smaller duration, then test how many "frames" back a time machine goes after a certain duration of traveling through time, very specific amounts of time can be calculated for how long a timeship has to travel. ::sigh:: Whew!
Of course, if Micheal J. Fox travels back in time just figuring in a T-coordinate, he will most definitely end up in the middle of space or perhaps inside a tree or the center of Mt. Everest - the same type of problem that occurs in using the Magic Mirror in the Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past.
Another reason to have the "time station" in space.
I hope you aren't tired of me yet, one more thing: if you can't travel to the future because it hasn't happened yet, and every time you travel back in time you create another universe, then you can't ever go back to where to started from, only further back. Unless you have a tracking device that keeps a lxwxhxt
coordinate on where you "jumped" from. I picture this device as two rainbow rings, like the measure of akira-energy on the movie Akira.
Okay, now I am out of thoughts. For now- the FUTURE may hold more (hopefully!)
I haven't read "Eternity",although, from your description, it sounds a lot like "The Empire of Time" by Crawford Killian.
Timeship? Maybe a device as simple to an extradimensional being as a pencil might be to us. Someone,I think it was Whit Strieber or maybe Stephen Hawking imagined the awe a two dimensional being would experience seeing a dot appear beside it/him/her out of nowhere. The dot could be a pencil point you made on a sheet of paper. Try explaining that to a being who has no concept of a universe with more than two dimensions. In other words, I have no idea. Probably, eventually a mixture of scientific theories and science fiction, like black holes, white holes, event horizons, gravity, space warping, bending and folding.
As far as Daniel Eakins displacement of the air with a "pop" upon arrival, and the assumed "whoosh" of air that must rush in upon departure, I think that the instant it happens, it's already "accounted" for- it's part of that timeline's history and the extra atoms are now part of that universe's "allocation"- sorta like Paul and I were discussing.
But I still am not convinced that this is a concern of timetravel(atom duplication). I don't think alternate realities are dependent of each other for any multiverse balance.
Can a point in time be measured? HMMM... I don't know. Good question, and I see what you're getting at. A CHRONOLOGY OF EVENT DURATIONS... laid out on a "timemap"- LEGEND: 1cm.=1min. I like that! Just don't forget the geographic calculations (remember the expanding universe).
As far as your last statement, it's the exact moves (excising) that gets our buddy, Danny into the unrecognizable worlds, he regrets in "TMWFH"
A REAL PLEASURE, IAN!
You are certainly gifted with a thinking mind. Stop by anytime!
Chuck
(name)Ernst Crouwcamp
(emailaddy)crouwe@telkom.co.za
(location)Johannesburg, South Africa
Chuck Buckley
I'f read your story, most interresting.
You got a few waterproof points, but I still think time travel is possible, (you didnt said anywhere that its impossible).
I hope to be the founder of the ultemate TIMETRAVEL MACHINE.
Use the basics of a microwave oven (Klystrom), interface to
a program on your PC, and linked to a Microwave system(transmission).
Kind regards
Ernst
I think you misunderstood, Ernst. The only part of timetravel I have "trouble" with is what is called futureward travel- ex; "I'll jump up ahead to age 40 to see what my life is like then." - THAT FUTURE SIMPLY DOESN'T EXIST (because it's the SAME TIMELINE). Events must be played out to exist in every possible worldline.
note: I type these words knowing what I'm trying to say and sometimes still feel I haven't expressed myself the way I wanted to. Frustrating!
ps/Ernst, if you're gonna be the founder,I wanna be your friend! HA!HA!
Thanks for the input!
Chuck
(name)Chronos Technologies, Inc.
(emailaddy)chronos.technologies@usa.net
(location)the Twenty-second Century
You raise many interesting questions about parallel timelines and destiny...
The Chronos Time Travel site has answers to all of these questions in exhausting technical detail...
Stop by some time and learn all about applications of nine-dimensional theory:
I'm just back from your site- EXCELLENT!
Nice to see we, in the 20TH century agree on a number of things concerning this subject.
I was happy to discover that we are in agreement in regards to the necessity of geographical coordinates, nearly in agreement about an inaccessable future, and your infinite causality determinations certainly help reinforce our infantile understanding of quantum mechanics. Unfortunately, we in this time, don't have ammenities such as tachyon accelerators or interspatial teleporters. If we did, the timegate seems sound!
All in all, your site is well thought out and obviously the work of a highly intelligent individual.
Thanks for pointing me in your direction. My part in spreading the word about your site is in the form of a hyperlink from my TIMETRAVEL LINKS page!
Chuck
(name)Jay
(emailaddy)playerEX@aol.com
(location)Palm Desert
All of the points above are very interesting and have got me thinking about traveling into the past.
Lets assume that we can't travel into the future because it hasn't happened yet (like stated above). Time travel has not been
invented yet, as far as we know, so would a person be able to travel back in time?
Lets say time travel was invented this year 1998 then when we get to the year 2000 then we can, at that point in time travel back to 1998 because time travel existed then. However, would we be able to travel back to lets say 1984? I wouldn't think so because time travel wasn't invented yet.
What are your views on these thoughts?
A perplexed future time traveler
Well, Jay, I guess I don't understand your line of thinking. I don't see why there would need to be a prerequisite for timetravel invention or discovery in any given year to be able to travel to that particular year.
I think that all points in time exist forever in the past (from a nonlinear perspective).
Could you elaborate more?
Chuck
(name)Daniel R. Atnip
(emailaddy)atnip@scctel.com
(location)Syracuse NY
I agree with most of what you said. But I WOULD significantly
change the past. If never come to be, so be it.
My first big change would be to keep Hitler from ever coming to power or ever come to be period. Or to tell the people of the mayflower that slavery will never be tolerated in the new world.
When I get back to my once timeline I would see how things changed. If I start to dissapear so be it. Just so long as I stopped some hideous thing from ever happening it would be worth my life.
Only if it made a positive change to our history.
Hi Daniel! Well, your statement is very admirable. However, if the quantum theory of many worlds is true, all of the atrocities would happen anyway- just not in the timeline you changed.
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EXAMPLE:
If you went back in time now and eliminated Hitler, I would still read about it all happening in the history books. The present you personally return to will be changed. It will not be in the history books there. You will be existing at that point, in a different timeline than me- an alternate reality where WW2 never occurred (or at least that particular WW2).
Granted, the "me" in that particular timeline would then have the same history as you, but Hitler still rises to power in this reality.
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You really would be changing history for yourself only. Reality must not be static.
I suppose we can be relieved that some negative things that have already happened in some other, greatly variant timelines, have not happened in ours!
THANKS! and...Keep checking back.
Chuck
(name)ThePod2
(emailaddy)ThePod2@aol.com
(location)Huntington Beach, California
My question is if you were to travel into the future could'nt time speed up the decisions myself and others will make? Also since when does time question what dicisions and actions you will make? Time will always percist, weather you make a decision or not or while you are making the decision, time waits for no
one.
Good Point! "Time waits for no one." I think your decisions and actions create the universe (world timeline, whatever) as you perceive it. Granted, events are occurring here in Ohio without your knowledge in California, and vice versa. I know what you're getting at, but it's hard to verbalize.
I'm sure there are countless universes "going on" where you or I do not even exist. In this reality alone, how do you know that what you see as the color purple, I see as the color you see as yellow- and we both call it purple! It's all in perception.
Thanks for contributing!
Chuck
(name)SeTxBabe
(emailaddy)SeTxBabe@aol.com
(location)texas
What you said makes sense, but i feel if you opened up a hole in time you also open up a whole in space and if you walk though that hole you would at the same spot where the hole was created.
If you opened that hole and traveled back 6 months you would be at the same spot where the earth was when you left. You would be standing out in outerspace.
Another thing if you were to travel back in time and land on the earth and decide not the travel forward through the hole you would be caught in a loop, but to walk back into the whole you would be placed at the exact spot where the hole was when you left. Hopefully you don't end up in outer space at the position where the earth was but not is.
I believe that time travel will be posible but will be too dangerous to try and then outlawed.
You're visualizing things exactly right. The Earth is constantly moving in space. That's why I eluded to the proper 4 point coordinates for the trajectory that would be necessary for any successful timetravel.
Yes, like we were talking about before, if timetravel ever becomes possible (maybe it's already happening), TPTB will be on it "like mud on a turtle"! They'll want to hush it up and have total control.
Chuck
(name)Kenneth L. Nelson
(emailaddy)darkvenom@webtv.net
(location)Columbus,Indiana
I BELIEVE TIME TRAVEL IS POSSIBLE.MAYBE NOT NOW,BUT IN THE
FUTURE IT WILL BE POSSIBLE.
I agree. I'm not so sure it isn't happening in some form or other right now.
Chuck
(name)RUPESH
(emailaddy)rnanjunda@yahoo.com
(location)INDIA
THIS PAGE GIVES A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT TIME TRAVEL IS.
IT IS REALLY INTERESTING
I'm a bit confused. If you're talking about my page-thank you. If you're suggesting another page-I didn't get the URL.
Chuck
